6111	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: August 23, 2008, 09:19:21 AM
This sounds like emergent. The pastor is more interested in the process than historical truth. So that he is trying to find the balance between everyones belief system. So if you have a conviction about what should be said, then that is one view. The purpose is to get people to agree rather than the historical way of teaching and encouraging. It can be frustrating , especially if you hold some very deep convictions. I agree, this is a waste of time. If the truth is from someones personal feelings and experience, then the revelation of the hidden personal problem is more important than the historical teaching. So if you try to share you convictions as historically accurate you may be labeled divisive. My personal experience in this is that there is a tendency to turn toward labeling people, applying rules or overstepping the boundaries of relationship to limit personal freedoms. Wards of the state, or politically structured church discipline.(edelweiss, edelweiss', bless my home land forever,) When you get a bunch of wayward sheep together along with the wolves and you start talking about other things that are not indirect in a biblical sense, then the inevitable direction will be to set up your own rules or system that determines the behavior. Once a person learns to view life this way, then they get really legalistic, and forceful. To me this is teaching people to look at others sins without seeing your own sins in light of others. The point and the counter point of self and circumstance is to be argued from the law of non -contradiction. This is very weird. I would distance myself from this for the sake of my own sanity. Why arent people upset about the political debates going on inside the walls of the church? Cause they have been taught through this discipline a sorta fascism. In theater we have this imaginary wall between the stage and the people in the seats. This wall is seldom broken. And in a sense what goes on in the preaching and teaching of the church is the same kind of process. Theater is strictly acting a part, where in the church you have the unseen work of the Spirit on a man, who is using these supernatural words and convictions that go to the hearts of the people and work to bring them to the glory of Christ. So that just like going to the theater and being a passive recipient on the feelings , the church does this on the inside of a person to heal them supernaturally without breaking the wall of personal communication toward one person. But the emergent has been an attempt to break the wall, so that man and the state become the agents for change and the congregation becomes active rather than the word and the Spirit. There are these powerful supernatural paradigms that are new ways of viewing the world that come in the light of all of the law of God. And we are not dealing with a moral fight in a direct way. Within the natural disposition of a sinner is not only the inability to come to unity or having a society of viewing alternative reasons for new discoveries of connection rather than processing a moral rule in connection. These new discoveries come indirectly through a point and time deliverance, or looking for the miracle, that new discovery, beyond the human understanding. This is a learned world view of deepening the understanding of the limits of the power of self within the unified understanding of the definition of connection. For we share in the unity of that discovery through supernaturalism rather than by the means of self discovery through the agency of a principled disciplined procession.   The rules of communication are different. Since what we confess is the truth of what we do. Our identity is individualist, by the reception of individual confessions of truth as the understanding of the reality of who we are in light of what we do. We know the way of truth to be the way of deliverance in a prior example of remembering the art of coming to a new way of transformation through being converted by the confession of the truth rather than the self discovery through the process of self disclosure. These powers are the limits of human security since individualism comes through the process of having these effects of growing through the reception of these passive pre dispositions in the set of new discovered desires that convert our understanding to a new world view in order for us to be at liberty in connection. Our disposition is the only example of what the truth is in connection as having a converted cohesion of being of one mind.