6210	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: July 08, 2008, 02:28:16 AM
The covenant that God made with His people is a love covenant. Since there are never a time when God does not do as He pleases, so that He doesnt need a vote to accomplish His will. Even in the societies of men in the covenants in a collective sense the requirements of a covenant being worked out are determined by Gods faithfulness and not mans willing. Because Gods requirements in society are never kept since the positive aspects of obedience are not fulfilled by one willing the covenant to be kept in the love of men in that covenant community. Thats why God made stipulations in the covenant requirements in order for men not to be burdened with with the same requirements in relation to the different gifts of other man. So that Gods faithfulness is displayed in the understanding that God controls all of these different paradigms of man falling short of meeting the requirements of love by His secret counsels. So He has determined for us to live by faith, so that we will have a unity of purpose in these unfulfilled positive requirements. In every society , God does rule through these second causes, but His rule is through the second causes in spite of the unfulfilled part of this covenant faithfulness of man. Since God weights the heart and the direction of the desires to fulfill the covenant, by a trust in a righteousness that is not natural or normal to the community of the justice of man. So that the way a man thinks about His particular reality of being connected to Christ, is the mark of His covenant faithfulness, even tho, in the community of covenant breakers, He is seen as falling short of his own faithfulness. With out sin , there would be no need of Christ. Without Christ there would be no hope of covenant faithfulness. So that our faithfulness is never rite by our own ability. We are made to depend on God , since we do not do as we are required in love. In order for there to be a perfect community of covenant keepers , then there must be a meeting of the requirement for all men to love God with all of their hearts and minds and strength. No man has fulfilled these requirements. So we depend upon these different stipulations of grace in community in order for us to keep each person from being judged by another covenant breaker.

6208	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: July 10, 2008, 02:41:39 PM
Since man cannot choose the spiritually good apart from being given a new divine knowledge to his understanding, he does not have a moral ability in himself to please in Gods. So that man is unable to please God in himself. The only hope of having a good spiritual choice is having new desires implanted by that new birth. The Spirit is like the wind, so that the work of the Spirits part of the work upon the heart of man is totally active while the man is totally passive in receiving this new will and desires. The old will in the man is destroyed, it was dead to spiritual good, and the new will is made alive to God. The old will was independent of God, so that it was completely self absorbed, only choosing for itself for the end of pleasing itself. Our old identity was from a spiritually dead paradigm. We were not able to see taste hear or touch what was reality. Not only does the will need to be destroyed but in receiving the new will grace must precede all new choices in order for those choices to be spiritually good. Grace is what the cause of all our goodness is in our new identity. Since we are made alive by grace, then we are kept by grace. If we were able to cause our choosing good , then there would be no other cause than our will choosing. And since the will is only active in the choice then the will being the cause before the choosing is no will at all. So that will being in a perfect equilibrium state has no reason to exist. And if the will does not exist, then there is no reason for the choice. And if the will was the cause of the choice prior to choosing then the choice was not free in the since of being contingent. But for every existence there is a cause of existence, since what is caused to exist is from an eternal existence. So that perfect equilibrium existence is no existence at all. If the will causes the choice , then the only choice is the prior choice causing the next choice, since the choice is what was chosen in each movement of the body. So that the first choice or the actual movement of the members had no prior choice to cause the second movement. If there was no other cause of a choice than a self determined choice, then there is no cause of all things existing. But since the reasons for choosing are prior to the willing, then choosing is from a pre meditated state. It is from the mind choosing which object is best and most pleasing. Otherwise there would be no reason for a choice. If we have the existence of sin, then we are going to want to choose sin. And so, since we still want to choose sin, then our sinful choices even all our choices apart from pre grace are not going to be pleasing to God. As long as we are sinners , we will desire to sin, and we will choose to sin. If there was no existence of corruption then there would be no understanding of sorrow. But since we are personally acquainted with sin, since sin comes from our desire to choose to sin, then we are going to have sorrow as that enemy as well as sin. The state of being enabled to choose good spiritually is mixed with this sinful experience of our minds corruption. So that what is purposed to happen from a cause to be either praiseworthy in its ends or sorrowful. Otherwise there would be no purpose in any working in our experience. If our experience in this life these two paradigms are going to be in constant communication in our minds view of our world and the people in it. When we experience sorrow over sin, from the world the flesh and the devil, then there is going to be a paradigm from the inside out and from the outside in. So that our experience of the amount of sorrow from within will have an effect on our minds view of what is without. So that we are never experiencing one or the other, but they go hand in hand. Its not about us, but then it is about us. Its totally passive, but then it is totally active. We are strangers in this world, but we are involved in the world. We are threatened with sorrow from the mind , but we are threatened from the forces that are physical. There are reasons why we face these different trials, the kinds of influences that we have in our view and our real life experience. But we must see that the enemies of our faith do not only exist from the inside. Or we will be very deceived. So that when we experience a sorrow in our minds view, we are going to need to be holistic as having a reasonable understanding. So that we can be tested and have an experience of being imprisoned for reasons we are not fully aware of. Since our view of these two different experiences are from a very narrow sight, only God has the power and sight to be able to bring all these things into their perfect order. These things are always much more difficult than we think because of this. So that there is only one remedy of being under the burden of a trial, and being under the allusion of being imprisoned by that which we experience from the inside and the outside. First by seeing these things as fallen and unable to be reconciled in our minds. If we are able to resist the temptation, then we have a reason to think that we could have enough power to present ourselves to God in prayer as acceptable. But since we are going to sin as long as we are in this life, then we are going to not be able to not be sorrowful. But these sorrows may be sorrows upon sorrows. So that our resistance is from a cause of power as being a source from God and not us. If there are things that are impossible for us to accomplish, then no amount of resisting will keep us from being under their power. So that if we thought that we could resist by the power of our will, then we would have an unlimited self power to not have any impossible strength to resist. So that all troubles are a mixture of these two realities .

6230	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: June 28, 2008, 06:14:22 PM
Human freedom, or the paradigm of conscious equilibrium is not expressed in nothingness. Since what happens is a sequence of cause an effect relationships. And where ever we find ourselves in that sequence of history, is what goes on in our spiritual consciousness. How did the concept of negative be expressed in conscious awareness to our being? So that there is attached a weight of necessity to experiencing its having an effect on our relational awareness in all that makes us a separate person of understanding of the image of ourselves. It is drawn out of the sense of the other and yet the understanding is personal experience. So there is a cause of being prior to the experience of being aware of the cause and effect in the personal conscious understanding. And human freedom has an other cause and effect longing as the origin of the struggle with negative paradigms. The natural working of sin in human experience is diverse in its negativity. That power to work is from an invisible spiritual paradigm. We cannot fathom the moment of its awakening and yet we know that there are ebbs and flows as to its power over us. That spiritual awareness in us is it being matured by the experiencing of its power. There is a sense in which we find the glory of His pleasure in understanding how we experience that weight in the matter at hand. Because our power of having a cause in the freedom over sin is a cause outside of our experience of that weight. There is no real working power in us to effect the natural ebb and flow of sins power as if it is equal to our ability to watch over our souls with our natural eyes. So that the sense of having that power over sin is eyed in us through another. We gain a proper perspective of ourselves as sinners when we are lost in the wonder of His glory and pleasure.

6296	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: June 06, 2008, 05:09:25 PM
Personalities are very different. But we cannot be defined by our personality in our new life in Christ. Each person is not just a personality but there are other definitions of a person that are more important to having an identity than the personality alone. And yet there are philosophies that intermingle the teaching on the personality as if that defined the central issue in the inner problems one experiences.  The mind is the place where self reflection is understood. What we think about ourselves is who we are. There is a difference between a biblically based mind and a philosophically taught mind. The principles of reality are the basis for that which we find our acceptance of the understanding of who we are. And within this knowledge we are taught to think from the frame work of blame and reward. All of our feelings about ourselves come from our view of our understanding of this knowledge. How we feel is determined by our understanding of those truths that are necessary and those truths that are secondary. Because when we determine a secondary truth as if it is necessary then we determine to redefine human liberty.

6295	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: June 06, 2008, 06:37:36 PM
Given the above paradigm of how we view ourselves as the truth is presented to us, and our understanding of the nature of the truth, we therefore entertain romantic notions of the truth of who we are when we entertain a philosophical view of ourselves that inverts the secondary truths to the necessary truths.  This inversion is our delving into the imagination of the truth about ourselves. When we turn over the origins of our self image to an image other than how we are defined by the eternal truths we entertain images of ourselves that are lesser than the understanding of ourselves with true liberty.  The soul is like an internal living reception of the outward calls in its reception through the understanding of what comes in through our 5 senses. The level of the condition of the soul is always determine by a level of spiritual understanding and not the circumstances that enter from the 5 senses. Our internalizing of an unrealistic view of ourselves is the condition of receiving into our souls an image. The depth of our sense of the negative image is determined by the spiritual condition of our understanding and not the circumstances whether morally good or totally corrupted. That bruising of the soul as to the depth of the pain from the outward circumstance is only as deep as to what we entertain in the false image. We are aware of who we are when we are aware of who He is.

6294	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: June 07, 2008, 02:06:50 PM
The inner man is a creation of the new call. We have been called to Him alone. The inner man has the new life defenses and creates an entirely secure soul. These secure understandings are the call of the Holy Spirit to a new way of thinking. As we grow in our understanding of the work of the Holy Spirit speaking to us in the word, we are shielded from the arrows of the enemy and we are secure in the communications of the Spirit. All of the personality traits of the whole man are renewed and not a product of outward intervention. The call of the new man is always from the inner man.  There fore we have a new way of thinking by that continuous work of recreation. And we long to be growing in His grace by that work. So that we think in the opposite way of the world ,flesh and the devil. Our way of resting is the way of war, and the sense of protection, and the way of meditation. As we deepen the inner man, the sense of protection is a strong conviction that there is no love of idols that we long for more than Him. As our mind is being transformed we are expanding our love for Him in the inner man, and we are longing to be like Him in our entire frame of disposition. Then we have a strong sense of the complications that are involved in this battle. We must think rite at all times so that we do not entertain idols. Because we have a very strong double mindedness in having a love of those things that are not of value in eternal world , and we feed the flesh and create a strong battle with those who belong to Satan.  If we have a rest from our being transformed then we will decline that much more by our level of understanding. Since the forces of the old  are grow stronger in our being stronger in Him. Temptation is stronger by the natural working of the worlds declension in our declining. There is a sense in which we are fighting by His word and His way , and we are watching Him in our position of refuge in Him. When we lose heart and turn back then we begin to feel the self awareness of the old life. Our struggles increase since we have feel alone in the sense of our falling into the old self awareness. A sense of Him being distant and the calls of the inner man are faint. This is when we struggle intensely with this lack of peace, since we have taken on the old awareness of our pride.

6293	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: June 07, 2008, 07:55:00 PM
Yes there is a lack of understanding that we are always having to battle with. Since we do not know exactly what He wants for us on a daily basis, when we make all of these little decisions. The tendency is to trust in our deciding rather than to long for the rite things. We would love to think that we are serving Him when we are only serving in a servile older son obedience. So He is concerned with our hearts and the state of our peace. Since He has accomplished every good deed, then He has given us that as our confidence in coming to Him who works all things out according to His will. So we are always in need of an assurance to our faith that He is speaking to us this peace.  He has earned forgiveness by appeasing the Fathers anger against every sin that we commit, and we are always in need of knowing that forgiveness by His grace. If we go too fast in our remembrance then we will have a servile older son obedience. Because He speaks peace in the Spirit of grace, and He is always applying His work to our hearts in that Spirit through His word. So that we grow to love our sovereign Lord, who protects our hearts from a servile fear. He would never force us to obey. So that if we grow impatient then we need a communication of His love to us through that forgiveness through His grace. It is through the Spirit of freedom that we come to any knowledge of His gracious communications. If the Spirit has made -(the only spiritual work on our hearts) you free, you shall be free indeed. So that if we do not know His freedom then we really do not understand His grace and we will serve Him in a servile conviction. The only other option we have is to try to fake it. If we fall in love with Jesus , everything else will fall in place.