6208	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Romans and the Flesh Monster.	on: July 10, 2008, 02:41:39 PM
Since man cannot choose the spiritually good apart from being given a new divine knowledge to his understanding, he does not have a moral ability in himself to please in Gods. So that man is unable to please God in himself. The only hope of having a good spiritual choice is having new desires implanted by that new birth. The Spirit is like the wind, so that the work of the Spirits part of the work upon the heart of man is totally active while the man is totally passive in receiving this new will and desires. The old will in the man is destroyed, it was dead to spiritual good, and the new will is made alive to God. The old will was independent of God, so that it was completely self absorbed, only choosing for itself for the end of pleasing itself. Our old identity was from a spiritually dead paradigm. We were not able to see taste hear or touch what was reality. Not only does the will need to be destroyed but in receiving the new will grace must precede all new choices in order for those choices to be spiritually good. Grace is what the cause of all our goodness is in our new identity. Since we are made alive by grace, then we are kept by grace. If we were able to cause our choosing good , then there would be no other cause than our will choosing. And since the will is only active in the choice then the will being the cause before the choosing is no will at all. So that will being in a perfect equilibrium state has no reason to exist. And if the will does not exist, then there is no reason for the choice. And if the will was the cause of the choice prior to choosing then the choice was not free in the since of being contingent. But for every existence there is a cause of existence, since what is caused to exist is from an eternal existence. So that perfect equilibrium existence is no existence at all. If the will causes the choice , then the only choice is the prior choice causing the next choice, since the choice is what was chosen in each movement of the body. So that the first choice or the actual movement of the members had no prior choice to cause the second movement. If there was no other cause of a choice than a self determined choice, then there is no cause of all things existing. But since the reasons for choosing are prior to the willing, then choosing is from a pre meditated state. It is from the mind choosing which object is best and most pleasing. Otherwise there would be no reason for a choice. If we have the existence of sin, then we are going to want to choose sin. And so, since we still want to choose sin, then our sinful choices even all our choices apart from pre grace are not going to be pleasing to God. As long as we are sinners , we will desire to sin, and we will choose to sin. If there was no existence of corruption then there would be no understanding of sorrow. But since we are personally acquainted with sin, since sin comes from our desire to choose to sin, then we are going to have sorrow as that enemy as well as sin. The state of being enabled to choose good spiritually is mixed with this sinful experience of our minds corruption. So that what is purposed to happen from a cause to be either praiseworthy in its ends or sorrowful. Otherwise there would be no purpose in any working in our experience. If our experience in this life these two paradigms are going to be in constant communication in our minds view of our world and the people in it. When we experience sorrow over sin, from the world the flesh and the devil, then there is going to be a paradigm from the inside out and from the outside in. So that our experience of the amount of sorrow from within will have an effect on our minds view of what is without. So that we are never experiencing one or the other, but they go hand in hand. Its not about us, but then it is about us. Its totally passive, but then it is totally active. We are strangers in this world, but we are involved in the world. We are threatened with sorrow from the mind , but we are threatened from the forces that are physical. There are reasons why we face these different trials, the kinds of influences that we have in our view and our real life experience. But we must see that the enemies of our faith do not only exist from the inside. Or we will be very deceived. So that when we experience a sorrow in our minds view, we are going to need to be holistic as having a reasonable understanding. So that we can be tested and have an experience of being imprisoned for reasons we are not fully aware of. Since our view of these two different experiences are from a very narrow sight, only God has the power and sight to be able to bring all these things into their perfect order. These things are always much more difficult than we think because of this. So that there is only one remedy of being under the burden of a trial, and being under the allusion of being imprisoned by that which we experience from the inside and the outside. First by seeing these things as fallen and unable to be reconciled in our minds. If we are able to resist the temptation, then we have a reason to think that we could have enough power to present ourselves to God in prayer as acceptable. But since we are going to sin as long as we are in this life, then we are going to not be able to not be sorrowful. But these sorrows may be sorrows upon sorrows. So that our resistance is from a cause of power as being a source from God and not us. If there are things that are impossible for us to accomplish, then no amount of resisting will keep us from being under their power. So that if we thought that we could resist by the power of our will, then we would have an unlimited self power to not have any impossible strength to resist. So that all troubles are a mixture of these two realities .