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8306  Forums / Main Forum / Of Interest on: October 21, 2006, 06:41:35 AM
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Mary, I can absolutely understand the ongoing frustration and anger you feel when politicians at any level make promises they never intend to keep in order to gain votes. This is even more frustrating when one is able to see the fraud and insensitivity taking place in a world where the ones with the least influence bear the greatest cost.

I understand that what I'm about to say will offend ... perhaps even you, but I need to say it in order to be honest and true to what I believe.

We live in a world that has trained everyone, even those committed to Him to value physical life and everything physical in general. However, at every conception ... even in the animal kingdom, death's clock begins ticking the instant it occurs. This planet is teeming with physical life and even a modicum of thought brings one to the conclusion that this animal life fades in consequence to Him in comparison to the life He intended His creation to have when He spoke creation into existence.

What I'm saying is that physical, animal life really isn't all that important, but connectedness is. When Adam and Eve lost connectedness with Him, they lost eternity. That's what Jesus came to demonstrate ... how man can become Man in his creator's eyes.

How man is able to attain connectedness again.

Political systems ... every one of them, regardless of type is essentially a worldly system and is, by definition, corrupt in His eyes. I do not believe that any person is able to attain worldly status without severe compromise and corruption of godly values to the point where connectedness disappears.

I refuse comment on any politician, though some cannot even be looked at without a nauseous feeling in the pit of my soul. The ones appearing  good in light of the things we hold to be important such as care, respect, and value will become more and more corrupt as they rise through the ranks because the only way to rise in a worldly system is to become part of the problem, not part of the solution.

... the nature of the beast.

Jesus taught that the only way to gain true life is to turn away from the worldly, physical one we have. The one we all start with is the physical, worldly one. Only as that animal life becomes less important can True Life grow.

The single most outstanding attribute displayed by Jesus is His lack of complaint ... regardless how the world treated Him. He steadfastly trusted His Father to meet each and every need. Those things His Father did not supply were not considered needs.

I desire health and wealth as much as the next person, but have come to see that what is most often demanded in order to have those things is compromise and acceptance of corruption.

Not a good trade.

The bottom line is that it is an impossibility to be friends with the world in any way and continue conectedness with Him

gene
I agree with you Gene , but we are people who live in the world, and really what is true of us as believers is that there is this pull inside of us to become enamored with the world system. Those people do not have the problems we do. We not only do not belong to this world but in self denial in our identification in Christ and Him drawing us to Himself by trials we can develop an attitude of being envious of the world. And we often do. So when we become envious we are becoming double minded.
Our lives are lived in the realm of relationship, not in things. When we begin to be envious we begin to become bitter. The weight of our envy drags us down and we begin to blame God. We start believing that what we see in the world is better than the life we live as a christian in self denial.
But God has made a remedy for this level of christian experience. He has given us the preaching of His word and the fellowship of the saints. We pick up these tendencies to envy as we are involved in our every day chores in the world. Our spiritual thoughts begin to degrade by being mixed with envious thoughts because of our being in the world ,working, playing and buying and selling. When we go to church God shows up in the preaching of His word and all of the spiritual views we have are renewed again, and we see the reality of the those who belong to the world and their ending up in hell and the value of our life in Christ and having eternal life. Once we see that we have let the world mold our minds in that week, some more than others , then we start to understand that we are weak sheep, wandering around like beast. Coming to that realization we see that we cannot hold ourselves from falling into envy, but that God holds us from falling away into envy. We may slip, our thoughts and our eyes may drift away, but God is keeping us.
Its always true that when we get a view of Gods sovereignty and the absolute control He has in our lives we have experience a renewal in our desires that are of an eternal existence. We see that there is only one person we want and all other things are of little significance. When we begin to glory in God our desires are inflamed and our perspective of the world becomes Gods perspective.

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