8031	Forums / Main Forum / Why Faith Is A Must	on: January 13, 2007, 09:23:59 AM
Soc wrote -Sorry, i did not word that correcty. It should be: A. God is the cause of all desires and all choices we make B. Our desires and choices are caused by God and not caused by ourown minds or spirits or souls C. Some desire salvation and choose to trust Christ alone to save us Therefore D. God causes Christians to desire salvation and choose to trust Christ alone to save them and E. Faith (or trust in Christ) is caused by God and not by our own minds or spirits or souls Maybe i can clarify my position. We are getting into mystery here. Some people think that we can explain divine sovereignty by two lines and so we get all of mans faculties and explain how the new life works and then we attribute it to Gods absolute control. But i do believe that God actually directly controls all choices as well as our being in full freedom in our faculties. When these things come together we truly understand definite atonement, and Gods divine freedom \"to do what ever pleases Himself.\" And i do not doubt that after all things were set in motion that He holds Himself to His word. There is a direct line there or it would effect our view of ourselves and God in a pragmatic sense. But God does work through the means in full purpose to the end so that He gets all the glory for that end. Just look at prophecy. Unless God controls the moral choices of man then the circumstances to get to each individual prophecy would be altered by mans will. I mean Joseph could have divorced Marry, Jacob could have told the truth, Adam could have rejected the Satanic temptation, Noah could have stop building the boat and partied with the rest of the people. All of these circumstances involve the excise of free will, (in the sense i have explained) but each choice was directed for the end that Christ ends should be accomplished perfectly.