8051	Forums / Main Forum / Why Faith Is A Must	on: January 08, 2007, 02:20:10 PM
socrates4jesus- Perhaps i cannot understand such people because God has somehow opened my eyes and not opened their eyes. The point at which you and i disagree (and it is OK for us to disagree!) is that i think such people are blind because they don't want to see (and so God does not force them to see) and you, i think, believe they are blind because God has chosen not to give them sight. Yours is an intriguing viewpoint and one i will spend much time considering! It's like they are brainwashed or insane or completely unable or perhaps unwilling to see the truth. Thanks for the kind words ,brother. Either they are able or they are unable. If they are able then there is a possibility they can respond. If they are unable then it is impossible that they can respond. But having a free will in the sense that they are able to choose with each side having no coercion. i e to either accept salvation or reject salvation and thinking that we are attributing liberty or freedom of choice is really not the paradigm of ability to choose. First choice comes from  desiring one thing over another. In order for there to be an act of the will it must be the actual choosing salvation springing out of  a desire for Christ that comes from the minds view of the excellency of Christ.  The cause of the choice is the new spiritual desires. I think you are saying that in order for a person to be absolutely free the choice must be made without coercion. This being your definition of freedom of choice. In other words you give the gospel message and then a person has the ability to either reject the message or accept the message. So the person cannot have any pre disposition to accept the gospel in hearing the message since any coercion is anti freedom of choice. Is this what you are saying ?